I thought the PC crowd was critical but as dedicated as Apple users are I am a bit surprised about this thread. It seems a loyal Apple user who currently owns a G4 thinks Apple is misleading them about the actual performance of the G5. I am not going to rant and rave as I think it best for you all to make up your own mind. I am quite happy sitting here with my P4 2.4 ghz desktop replacement laptop in Windows Bliss. [www.haxial.com] there is also another thread at [AMD Zone] the threads keep building [The Register]